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Robbery Homicide. The serial number was scraped off but police were still able to decipher it. I went down a serious rabbit hole with this last night pursuing the angle that one or both of the victims could have been involved in the summer Olympics in Montreal. They had apparently traveled through various places in the United States before being killed in South Carolina. The man was located but was not charged because insufficient evidence existed to file charges against this individual with the murders. Leadership Sumter County builds and strengthens the Sumter community through training its leaders for the challenges of tomorrow. The Sumter County Does, also known as Jock Doe and Jane Doe, were two unidentified homicide victims found in Sumter County, South Carolina, on August 9, 1976.They had apparen tly traveled through various places in the United States before being killed in South Carolina. Also, at this point - we have to assume if there are any relatives left of the Sumter County couple - they would probably be siblings or friends of them. The program goals focus on developing informed leaders and channeling their ideas and experiences toward community resources, including issues and concerns, so that they might help direct the future of Sumter County. I found some leads but no slam dunks. While the evidence was thin, police did manage to develop several theories including one which targets a person of interest with a connection to the disappearance of another woman. We have an Air Force base in our county that’s been in operation since 1941. They were later buried in a parish cemetery, to be exhumed and tested for DNA, then buried again. I got a good giggle out of this too, I was just thinking "Damn, someone should offer that guy a job as a detective", New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the UnresolvedMysteries community, Continue browsing in r/UnresolvedMysteries. Seeing as they would be somewhere in their 60's today (20's when they died), their parents may not be alive any longer as they would be estimated to be in their 80's to 90s. Sumter County’s Median HH Income. Trace Evidence podcast on demand - Trace Evidence is a weekly true crime podcast that focuses on unsolved cases, from chilling murders to missing persons. Years ago a man was arrested for DWI in South Carolina, Lonnie George Henry. The area had been settled for several decades by the time the Legislature chartered it as the states 29th county. The Property Appraiser of Sumter County is charged with placing a fair and equitable market value on every parcel of property both real estate and tangible in our county. And of course even if you could see all the names of the athletes you can't know the coaches, coaches family, friends, and spectators. City of Sumter, South Carolina PO Box 1449 21 N. Main Street Sumter, SC 29150 (803) 436-2500 The Writing Traveler: Why not send us your favorite travel stories? He died in 1982 without giving any more information. Third Judicial Circuit Public Records Search; Third Judicial Circuit Court Rosters; Family Court System; LAW ENFORCEMENT. Various reports listed them as “wealthy,” because of expensive dental work the young man had, his expensive watch, and other jewelry. Melba decided to do more research. They mentioned that in many European families, when a teen kid walked out, that was it and they were basically gone from the family for good (I am paraphrasing based on memory but watch the doc, it was great). I also focused on contact sports and sports that are common among wealthier people, like sailing, keeping in mind they may not have defected but simply decided to travel after the games. Maybe they were headed towards another Bicentennial celebration somewhere, in D.C. even, after leaving Florida. That was kind of far-fetched and there was no evidence of their ever turning up in a porn movie, anywhere. My Review of Finding Billy Battles by Ronald E. Yates, DNA testing has proven that John and Jane Doe were, There was no indication of European descent through DNA. Please consider the following counterpoint regarding Craig Estep’s June 7 Op-Ed titled: The real math behind the 25% Sumter County tax increase.Mr. Melba was bothered by all of these questions. The jewelry and watch were left on the bodies (unless they had a huge wad of cash on them that was taken, and no one has an answer to that, naturally). (Scott Olson/Getty Images) (SUMTER, S.C.) A woman found shot to death in South Carolina in 1976 has been identified by her DNA as Pamela Mae Buckley of Colorado Springs, according to The Denver Post.. Sumter County Sheriff Anthony Dennis said Thursday that Buckley and a man, later identified as James Paul Freund of Pennsylvania, were found in August 1976 on a road off Interstate … Sumter County Council Tuesday evening denied a request to rezone a tract of land for a cemetery, passed second reading for a request to amend an ordinance related to a salvage yard and passed third and final reading to allow feather flags with specific guidelines. *  The murderer then rolled them over and shot them again in the necks, under their chins to make sure they were dead. Riser is the #1 local services app to get quotes from local professionals in Eastover, South Carolina. Sumter, S.C. 29150 The Delinquent Tax Sale slated for Dec. 7, 2020, has been cancelled, as per Sumter County Treasurer Carolina Richardson. I was wondering what was the reason why they weren't wearing underwear. Third Judicial Circuit Public Records Search; Third Judicial Circuit Court Rosters; Family Court System; LAW ENFORCEMENT. Phone: 803-436-2213 Fax: 803-436-2469. I think Henry’s alibi was that he was visiting a family member in the hospital. Please consider the following counterpoint regarding Craig Estep’s June 7 Op-Ed titled: The real math behind the 25% Sumter County tax increase.Mr. I still hope to see this case solved. No, no this is awesome. Melba tossed this idea aside, as their autopsies would probably have indicated such activity and that was not mentioned. I, myself was one, although it was by plane and in the month of April. It was hard to tell. This was inferred from some of their belongings. Please click the book cover image to read more about Sara Marie Hogg and her novels. Hmmm. Who were these people? [8] 2 Adolf Hitler And Eva Braun. The killer then drove off in a cloud of dust, taking the underwear with him? Sumter County voters are going to the polls today to consider raising their property taxes by eight mills. Melba could not tell. The bodies were kept sealed in a funeral home for a time in hopes of identification. It was a thing also in the 70s for men to not wear underwear. 71. She decided to delve further. They don’t have time to mess with the “merely curious.”  After a few hours of thinking it over she decided to send the Sumter County Sheriff’s Department an email. Not only that, we have two more military bases within an hour from here that were around at that time too. This … There were three questions she wanted answered—answers that she had not found in her research, that they should know by now. Unresolved Murder. to the Sumter County Property Appraiser web site. Was she searching in the wrong place? And truly old money wealthy people did not have the need to show off their wealth with bling. Another half hour of research revealed another photo. April 05, 2017 ... Additional Theories. Well, there goes my "Working Vacation." Why? I can't wait to hear if any of my own theories were even close. Theories on the Sumter County Does. If they had spent any time around Sumter county, I think someone would’ve noticed them as outsiders immediately. This campground attendant got amazing powers of observation! I agree, were probably using I-95 and ran into trouble somehow. I have some really BIG news. It was horrible. Not necessarily, I live in Sumter. The serial number had been partially filed away. Her teeth were straight. 6:07. (Scott Olson/Getty Images) (SUMTER, S.C.) A woman found shot to death in South Carolina in 1976 has been identified by her DNA as Pamela Mae Buckley of Colorado Springs, according to The Denver Post.. Sumter County Sheriff Anthony Dennis said Thursday that Buckley and a man, later identified as James Paul Freund of Pennsylvania, were found in August 1976 on a road off Interstate … Sumter County Median Household Income equaled $52,594 in 2017, boasting a 18.1% gain since 2010, and again ranking Sumter County first among Florida counties, this time in the category of Growth of Median Household Income. The Sumter County Does, also known as Jock Doe and Jane Doe, were two unidentified homicide victims found in Sumter County, South Carolina, on August 9, 1976. One theory is that the couple were involved in drug smuggling or some form of organised crime which would explain the execution style demise they met, the Mafia has been suggested as a culprit for the murders. When I heard of them I thought someone was watching them cause they were wearing expensive watches and rings, but they were found with it. That was the year of all the Bicentennial celebrations on television and elsewhere, Melba thought. The Sumter County Does are in fact John and Jane Doe, found murdered 400 meters off of I-95 in a pine-tree riddled spot of Sumter County, South Carolina on August 9, 1976 by a passing trucker. Many people believe the Property Appraiser determines the amount of taxes a property owner will pay but this is not the case. It came back as being registered to Henry’s brother (maybe brother in law?) Sumter Daily Item Newspaper; Santee Wateree Regional Transportation Authority; ONLINE SERVICES. ... Investigators have not uncovered a motive, but they have learned that Warner may have believed in conspiracy theories… Still there are no answers. The Sumter County Sheriff's Office is founded on the principles of integrity, respect, honesty, and caring for others. That was the year of all the Bicentennial celebrations on television and elsewhere, Melba thought. That would be kind of nervy of me. I wasn't able to find a full country roster. I would think that would be an obvious give-away if they were from Europe or were French-Canadian, however. The city and county of Sumter have a colorful history stretching back more than 300 years. After thirty minutes of searching on the web, Melba found the crime scene photo. Sumter County Democratic Executive Steering Committee 2nd Monday @ 5:00pm -7:00pm. Their family might not have reported them missing because they assumed they were committing immigration fraud of some kind or just lost touch because the 70s. There were celebrations every where all that summer all over the country. That way if it was an heirloom the first name wouldn't have to match. Congrats to … John Doe had a four inch appendectomy scar. 5 Disturbing Theories On The Sumter County Does Murders: Unsolved - Duration: 6:07. Lol. Was he in a blackout of some kind? She found the ones that the police sketches had been made from. Henry is the obvious suspect and I believe the police have said he is their guy - they believe he did it but he died 6 years after the murders so he will never be brought to justice. I also mentioned this, OP said it's highly unlikely the people they spoke to would have been able to differentiate from French or French-Canadian accents. Many people traveled to the nation’s capitol for history’s sake. I also looked for people that didn't compete again after 1976 because they would be um... dead. Their fingerprints have been sent to most data bases and warehouses for such. Sumter County Maps; COURT SYSTEM. ‎Trace Evidence is a weekly true crime podcast that focuses on unsolved cases, from chilling murders to missing persons. It depends upon where they went to school, but English is widely taught from preschool onward. Did he loan the gun to someone, then have a fear for how the person had used it? Hmmmm. While the evidence was thin, police did manage to develop several theories including one which targets a person of interest with a connection to the disappearance of another woman. The "Carolina Backcountry," as it was then known, became a predominantly agricultural area called Craven County, later Claremont County. There was a cold case profiled on Canadian TV about Reet Jurvetson...she was found in California way back when. Back then, before internet, and Google, and DNA databases, and social media, and instant access to news from everywhere, it would have been relatively easy to be from another state, another country, and have never seen or heard of the case. I am posting this in case someone else wants to take up the mantle of this angle. It proved to be the gun that had killed the young couple. They were both brunette, her eyes brownish-green, his brown. Get it free today! Sumter County South Carolina. Originally, Sumter County had an area of 1,672 miles, but that was reduced to 681 square miles due to the formation of Clarendon County in 1855, and then Lee County in 1902. Haley Varnum - Theorist Observation Journal.doc - Theorist Observation Journal Name Entry Teacher Date Grade Observation of the Classroom(How is the ... How does their theory impact the early childhood education classroom?) Maybe it was a porn movie and their faces were not visible. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This was inferred from some o Hours of Operation Monday - Friday 8:30 a.m. to 5 p.m. You can now pay taxes on our new Online Tax Payment Page Doe Diaries: Instalment 2 Sumter County Does. Another piece I learned from the podcast was that Henry was known to have a pretty severe drinking problem and had accidentally killed a coworker by running them over with a piece of machinery. Most of his mouth was filled with extensive dental restorations. I think they were taking this road to catch a flight in a larger city or trying to get to the French consulate. They were both clean and had taken showers within the last twenty-four hours. Sumter County was officially founded in 1853, but its history goes back much further than that. I think that it's very likely they had a car, and that they picked up someone hitchhiking who robbed them and took their car, and shot them so they wouldn't be able to identify the thief, even though the killer didn't take the man's watch, which was expensive apparently. Their eyes were open and their mouths were open, it seemed, in horror. From Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia The Sumter County Does, also known as Jock Doe and Jane Doe, were two unidentified homicide victims found in Sumter County, South Carolina, on August 9, 1976. I admit, I always leaned more towards Europe because the woman didn't have shaved legs, and I know that in many European countries, women don't shave their legs or armpits. It could have been the same scenario for the Sumter does. Both met while hitchhiking. Close. Sketches of the Sumter County John and Jane Doe (Image: Sumter Mystery Couple Facebook) The pair died on a summer morning by the side of the road in Sumter County, South Carolina. Also, I wouldn't think "Jacques" would say he was from Canada, if he wasn't, even though maybe they weren't born there, but emigrated there when they were young from Europe or maybe were born in Canada and later moved to the U.S. None of the reports I have read about the case ever mention if they had accents. According to a campground attendant the Male’s name was Jacques and that his dental work was very abnormal for the US. Sumter County, Florida 7375 Powell Road Wildwood, FL 34785 Ph: 352-689-4400 FX: 352 689-4401 Contact Us No, not for sure wealthy, Melba thought. The Sumter County Does are in fact John and Jane Doe, found murdered 400 meters off of I-95 in a pine-tree riddled spot of Sumter County, South Carolina on August 9, 1976 by a passing trucker. That usually seems to be the case with these well publicized cases of unidentified does that are still unidentified after decades-- no missing person reports, no family or close family still alive. Sumter County was established by the Florida Legislature on January 8, 1853. But as the attendant seemed to believe Jacques, to me that suggests he at least had some kind of French accent as opposed to a generic Canadian as some FC do. The only witness to their deaths reported he heard a car driving down a dirt road that ran between I-95 and a state highway. Jane Doe’s legs were not shaven. Outsiders are completely normal and have been for a long time. 65,000 COVID-19 vaccine appointments on hold in Sumter County. Unresolved Murder. Had they been kidnapped, forced to make a porn movie at gunpoint, then forced to dress hastily, and exit the van* to be murdered? Trace Evidence ***Sponsored by Caliper CBD. They did not have any drugs or alcohol in their systems. The Sumter County Does, also known as Jock Doe and Jane Doe, were two unidentified homicide victims found in Sumter County, South Carolina, on August 9, 1976. They had been traveling all over the country, just a young couple having fun. CHEMISTRY. and when police questioned the brother he told them he had gifted Henry the gun many years prior, and when he did the serial number was intact. The Authors Collection, Sampler: Lost in Transit by Ray Stone and Gabrielle Burt, Next year, I’m walking to California by Sally Berneathy. Although, I acknowledge that it was the 70s, and it wasn't unusual for women who lived the more "bohemian" or 'hippie' lifestyle to not shave, wear make up, bras or underwear. They were drug-runners. The Sumter County Does, Jock Doe and Jane Doe, two unidentified homicide victims found in August 1976 in Sumter County, South Carolina have been # IDENTIFIED ater 45 years by genetic genealogy of DNA Doe Project as 25 year old Pamela Mae Buckley missing from Colorado and 30 year old veteran James Paul Freund missing from Pennsylvania. This … Discovery of the body. It was 1976, the U.S. A subreddit dedicated to the unresolved mysteries of the world. The problem is, the time frame for when the murders could’ve happened is fairly large. Again, you could see all of this in the photos. Sumter County was named for General Thomas Sumter, a hero of the Revolutionary War. She was shocked when Lt. Robert Burnish sent a speedy reply and answered all three of her questions: Lt. Robert Burnish also stated, “if your readers have, or pass on, any information, we would love to hear from you.”. They had apparently traveled through various places in the United States before being killed in South Carolina. This is all just off the top of my head from memory so I may have gotten some small details wrong, I am a little shaken on the murder weapon because that was such a common firearm for the time (357 magnum revolver) to the point where it was the standard issue for the SCHP, and ballistic matching is not as concrete as other forensic sciences. Sumter County Does, 1976. She put on her detective hat. This was inferred from some of their belongings. On February 19, 1971, two teenage hitchhikers discovered a partially submerged figure floating beneath a highway overpass in Lake Panasoffkee, Florida.. The woman's legs might have been unshaved only because she didn't have access to a razor while she was traveling. I focused on countries with autocratic regimes at the time or political turnover in the 70s (USSR or USSR-adjacent, South Americans). They were under a witness-protection program. It sounds kinda strange. Maybe you will have better luck than me! The young man’s ring has the initials, “JPF” engraved on the inside of the band. The man looks a lot like photos of Ron. Middle class people often splurge on expensive dental work. Theories ran rampant:  They were Canadians. Sumter County Does unidentified for over 40 years. The "Carolina Backcountry," as it was then known, became a predominantly agricultural area called Craven County, later Claremont County. Do I dare look at post mortem photos, if they are available? The Strangest Recommended for you. Jan 2, 2021 - Explore Tracey Robbins's board "Unidentified John & Jane Doe", followed by 1167 people on Pinterest. According to Sumter County Sheriff Anthony Dennis, Jock Doe was from Pennsylvania, while Jane Doe was from Wisconsin. She had been very attractive and you could see all of this in the death photo. 65,000 COVID-19 vaccine appointments on hold in Sumter County. Not everyone sounds like Céline Dion. Could he have gotten so inebriated that he killed them and had no memory of it, thus tricking the polygraph? Their identities will be released at a later date by the Sumter County Sherriff's Department. One USSR athlete famously defected but later agreed to go back. From Wikipedia: “The Sumter County Does, also known as Jock Doe and Jane Doe, were two unidentified homicide victims found in Sumter County, South Carolina, on August 9, 1976. Theory on the Sumter County Does. They had both eaten a fruity-milky concoction shortly before death. Join host Steven Pacheco as he examines each case, diving deep into the evidence and exploring the theories which revolve around them. I admit, I always leaned more towards Europe because the woman didn't have shaved legs, and I know that in many European countries, women don't shave their legs or armpits. Melba decided to take a chance. Sumter /ˈsʌmtər/ is a city in and the county seat of Sumter County, South Carolina, United States. The Sumter County does, also known as Jock and Jane Doe, are unidentified murder victims. It had had all of the serial numbers when given, the relative insisted. If they were competing in Canada (the games ended on the 1st, bodies were found on the 9th, so maybe the timeline doesn't add up unless they left the games early) the "from Canada" thing could be a tip of the tongue lie. Democratic Headquarters 300 South Main St. Wildwood, FL 34785. Many French Quebecoise and Maritimers have little or no accent when speaking English. There is one person I am intrigued by but I don't want to post their name yet because I feel bad speculating about living people. Are those really that way, or was that feature added by an artist? But, then again, maybe the thief didn't care about the jewelry and was more interested in their car, and any cash they probably had. Sumter County Doe Theory It has been speculated that Le Roi may be Jock Doe (warning: post-mortem images). ... Theories. A relative admitted giving him the .357 Smith and Wesson for a birthday. In other photos, the mouths and eyes were open. What in the world are Sumter County Does? Sumter County has changed its name and boundaries several times. Americus Sumter County High South. The Sumter County Does, also known as Jock Doe and Jane Doe, were two unidentified homicide victims found in Sumter County, South Carolina, on August 9, 1976. It was of their death faces. I’d bet if he had lived long enough for forensic technology to advance to where it is now that he would’ve eventually been arrested, no doubt. Like a whole day/night. Named for Revolutionary War hero Gen. Thomas Sumter, the county was originally part of Marion County. The Sumter County Does have been a pet case of mine for a while and I want to flush out an idea I had.... a lot of people point to the male being French Canadian from Quebec but I believe that the couple are French nationals. I was nearly seven years old in the summer of '76. The couple had been shot in the back after they stepped from the rear of a van. Each victim had been shot three times, receiving one shot in … On January 19, 2021, the DNA Doe Project, which had previously solved the Buckskin Girl case, announced that the Sumter County Does had been successfully identified. The young man was described as having thick, bushy, dark eyebrows. T They had apparently traveled through various places in the United States before being killed in South Carolina. There are conflicting theories as to how Joseph and Magda Goebbels killed themselves and their children, but we know they all died on May 1, 1945. 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